The Interview

Conversation about setting up your own business

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This film has a twist; watch it and see if you see it coming. I won’t spoil it for you but if you are that sticky stage of deciding whether you set up your own business, you’ll recognise it when it happens..

Watching Charlie at work is to see a dream in action. I’ve travelled into London on SWT and seen the big sign past Vauxhall for Pimlico Plumbers, I thought it was a catchy name and I had only heard good things about them, so it was great for me to find out more about the man behind the business.

Another entrepreneur who’s caught my eye recently is Sharmadean Reid, Founder of  WAHNAILS (

She was featured recently in a London newspaper and told a story not dissimilar to Charlie’s. Hailing from the West Midlands as part of a large Jamaican family, she  was surrounded by love and positivity all of which gave her to confidence to believe in herself. She was unfazed at the idea of setting up her o

Radiantlady loves WAH NAILS

Radiantlady loves WAH NAILS

wn business and even describes it in four easy steps which makes it sound easier than baking a cupcake!

What struck me most reading about Sharamdean was her passion in achieving the impossible, and then simply getting on with it.

“People bog themselves down in the process of growing, it rather than just doing it,”

If you think about that sentence there is a lot of wisdom in that. As an entrepreneur or business owner to need to be fleet of foot, as flexible as a ballet dancer to response to the changing pace of the business drum. Social media facilitates this type of speed beautifully as is probably why there are so many solopreneurs who use social media to great effect. It’s generally light and unencumbered.

Q: What did I learn from the stories of both of these talented, hardworking business people?

A: Flex your muscles, take that call, act on your intuition, believe in you!

Suzy Rigg

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Fancy Chocolate!

Tola: Founder of Chocolat at Toi


So pleased to welcome Tola to ‘Conversation Between Friends’ to talk about one of our favourite subjects – CHOCOLATE!!

Hey Tola, mmm yes please don’t mind if I do! What made you decide to set up your business?

I spotted a gap in the market for bespoke wedding favours. Plus, as a new mum I was looking for a part-time business that would keep my head thinking of something other than nappy changes and apple puree!

Where does your passion for chocolate come from?

Simply reading about its history and how it’s made to be honest. I’m more of a biscuit fan or else I’d eat all of my stock!
Like red wine, chocolate attracts passionate devotees, why is this?

Cocoa which is the main ingredient used to make good chocolate contains a chemical call Serotonin. Serotonin simply makes us feel better.
Is a bar of chocolate with high cocoa content really better for you than a bar of Dairy Milk?

It actually is because the higher the Cocoa content the higher the Serotonin as well as antioxidants. Scientists have also found that cocoa is very rich in antioxidants.

Beautifully presented favours!

‘Chocolate is a complete food’ Discuss!

There are four basic food groups – white chocolate, milk chocolate, dark chocolate and truffles.

Try me, buy me!

You can find Tola and her lovely, yummy chocolate favours over on Facebook,  (It’s the biggest ‘Like’ button I’ve ever seen!) or browse the delectable delights at

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The Interview: ‘YungN': Rihanna sexy or slack?


YungN: Taking a closer look at rap music


Conversation Between Friends welcomes our first Stateside interviewee and Twitter buddy, rapper YungN. We caught up over fries and a coupla skinny shakes.

You’re currently a student, what are you studying and where?

Yes, I’m majoring in Recording Arts at Full Sail University, Florida, USA.

Tell us about the videos you make.

I started making YouTube videos less than a year ago. The main reason I created my channel ‘ThisisYungnTV’ was to shed more light on  truth about things manifesting in our world in a way that would be relative to the youth, and easy to understand. The first video I made in July 2010, started with a song I recorded the month before called “Make Ya Eyes Light Up”. I rapped over a Drake track called “Light Up” and exposed a lot of different thing’s that were going on at that particular time. 

I created my YouTube channel and posted that video the same night, the video went viral, and now it’s had over a half a million views. I  have over a million views in total for all of my videos. It’s such an humbling opportunity to be able to minister to millions of people and I give God all the glory for that.

A lot of videos made by the most successful international artists for example Lady GaGa Beyonce, Flo’Rida, Snoop Doog, Rihanna, seem to include a lot of highly sexualised messages. What are your thoughts on this?

With mainstream music being one of the biggest global influences, as far as trends and what is “Cool” today, that definitely doesn’t sit well with me. Young teenage and even preteen girls look up to artists like Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Rihanna, and now Nicki Minaj. So when artists project these highly sexualised images and say they want to be role models for children…it just makes me wonder.

Do you think these videos should be censored by the TV channels or is it parents’ role to monitor what children under the age of 16 watch in the home?

I feel it’s the parents’ role.

You’re a Christian. Do you find it challenging being a young Christian when so many popular cultural influences seem to celebrate greed, promiscuity and the portrayal of women as sexual predators? 

Yes, I grew up in an unreligious household, so I was unsaved most of my life, and lived an unsaved lifestyle. And after being accustomed to it for so long, it was a lot harder to make the transformation people may think. It took me years to get to where I am today spiritually; and I’m still growing.

What impact do you think that popular music, in particular some R & B and hip hop has on young, impressionable especially male minds?

I can tell you for a fact, a lot,  just looking back on my teenage years! The “Hip-Hop Culture” is probably the biggest influence on the youth in the world.  Hip-Hop’s culture is paved by its music, obviously, or the culture wouldn’t be called “Hip-Hop”. Hip-Hop’s gone global, but the direction it’s leading the youth of this generation is not good, at all. Mainstream music in general actually.

Who are your current icons/role models?

I’m gonna have to go with the cliché answer and say Jesus Christ, (laughs) but that’s my honest answer. There’s no better person to look at in the way you would want live your life than him….period. So yea, Jesus Christ.

What are your goals or dreams for the future?

To reach millions with my videos and my music. Because I believe if that happens – everything else will be taken care of.

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The Interview: Black women’s hair: ‘Dying’ to be straight


As more female entrepreneurs find niche markets to fill, Conversation Between Friends looks at a market that is long-established and worth millions: black female hair products. Sonia Evelyn, Director of Evelyn Products popped in to tell us her story over a bottle of mineral water.What was the trigger that made you decide to set up Evelyn Products?

I set up the company for three reasons: I suffered severe shedding six weeks after having my hair relaxed by a major brand product by a top stylist. In a few days I had lost most of my hair,  through researching my condition I was shocked to find that approximately 70% of black women who relax their hair will suffer a side effect at some point.

At the same time my younger sister had been diagnosed with breast cancer and had lost her hair through chemotherapy . She stopped using several cosmetics and began telling me about some of the studies into chemicals and cancers. I had very little hair and was determined never to use certain chemicals in my hair again, so looked for natural products. I soon realised that “natural” could mean many things, and that most natural products were mixed with a number of harsh chemical additives. This really fired me up as my daughter had eczema and I had always believed I had bought the best creams for her. So decided I would have to make my own.

You have a ‘96% natural’ sign on your bottle of Honey Haze, what does that mean exactly?

It means what it says. Some of our products are 100% natural, but never less than 96%. We list a percentage because currently products only have to contain 1% of natural ingredients to be classed as ‘natural’. However for any cosmetic containing water like the hair mist, certain ingredients are required to maintain the product and prevent bacterial growth, such as the preservatives or stabilisers. We ensure that all such ingredients are naturally derived which means they are made from plants, and in all instances we source the mildest commercially available and only those considered safe by the Cosmetic Database- environmental working group.

Why is natural afro hair so delicate?
Afro hair is primarily designed for protection. To this end our follicles are spherical producing coiled hair with a number of additional features such as:
1. As the hair coils, the width of the hair varies creating areas of weakness intermittently along the length of the shaft.
2. We produce less sebum (oil) which then has to travel along these tight curls to the ends of the hair. In most case it doesn’t reach the ends, which leads to drier hair that is more susceptible to breakage.
3.The diameter of the hair shaft is elliptical giving rise to the hair splitting lengthwise more easily.
4. Afro hair lacks a particular “glue” that holds the cuticles closed making the hair more porous , therefore does not retain water very easily and dries.
5. When grooming the hair, the ends spring back on each other inter-twining creating tangles which leads to further breaks in the hair.

Natural ingredients are better for scalp and health.

Can your products be used on chemically straightened hair?
Some can such as our shampoo, oils and conditioner but the heavier products such as the butter would weigh the hair down.
How is it important for women to be aware of what goes into their hair products?
Nowadays there are numerous studies showing that what we use on our bodies can penetrate the skin and get into the bloodstream. We see nicotine patches, hormonal patches and vitamin C patches all designed on this method. Some of those same chemicals found in cosmetics (not just hair products) can also be found in diseased breast tissues and in breast milk. Some have been shown to cause tumours in animals. We may never know the extent of how or which chemicals penetrate the skin, but prevention is always better than cure. What is clear that as more synthetic ingredients are introduced into our environments, we are also seeing a rise in cancers. A great place to begin looking at your cosmetics is the Cosmetic Database a pro-active American website.

Why do you think black women persist in using harsh products and chemicals in their hair?
There are many different reasons, some of which are quite complex. On the whole I believe firstly because we are conditioned into holding an inherent dislike for our tight hair and secondly because we are unaware of the potential damage. Most products are sold to us in a highly sophisticated glossy packaging adorned with stunning looking women. The subtext is saying if you want to get ahead, this is how you must look. What the box fails to tell us that these women are painted up and photo-shopped to the last millimetre.
Many black women have an inherent desire for length and strength in their hair and products are marketing to provide short term gratification. The longer term results sadly are a trend towards balding women. The irony is, if you just keep your hair moisturised, clean and stop trying to do so much with it, then you begin to see its real length and strength!
Who are your black female icons?
Undoubtedly Madame C.J Walker for her entrepreneurship, but it’s time for change. It’s time to show curls with beauty.

Madame CJ Walker: Pioneering entrepreneur!

Where can people get hold of your products? provides a list of UK and international stockists.

If you would like to find out more about the remarkable story of Madame CJ Walker have a look here

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The Gorgeous Miss Sonia Evelyn

The Gorgeous Miss Sonia Evelyn

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